flyin polack
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democrats and their laws to keep them in business and freedom at bay.....
What really causes health care costs to rise
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If that doesn't suck the hairy wackazoolo, I don't know what does.
loneranger171
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That sucks Georgie.... How are you doing now?
BanTonic
PR Addict
Guess you shouldn`t have trusted a physicians and nurses joint opinion.
IOM article NOT talking about maintaining a sterile environment or actual "physical" Medical Waste. We all know that must be disposed of properly.
Read up:
http://www.economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/waste-vs-value-in-american-health-care/
Scroll down to chart 3-1
Quote from author:
"What draws my attention, however, is the $190 billion imputed to “excess administrative costs.” It is not a trivial sum. Indeed, it is more than would be needed to attain truly universal health insurance coverage in the United States."
And this was from 2009,five years ago! The $$$$ are probably more than that now!
http://www.healthaffairs.org/healthpolicybriefs/brief.php?brief_id=82
This last one for you
http://ajnoffthecharts.com/2012/09/...iom-report-spotlights-crucial-role-of-nurses/
The debate should be will it or can it EVER be fixed fairly and economically?
How about some incompetence? From the same guy that wrote "Bitter Pill".
This one is short enough maybe even Rush listeners can digest it.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2159286,00.html
This one is short enough maybe even Rush listeners can digest it.
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2159286,00.html
GeorgiePorgie
PR Founding Father
Let me put it this way: if administration wasnt ramming down less is more (adopted from somewhere) I would be doing a lot better today.
2-3 more surgeries to go potentially. Fun. Thanks for less tests.
How about stop taking your (not singling anyone out)kid to the emergency room for a couph or tummy ache? How bout stop going to the ER because your hung over. Stop racing your dirtbike without health insurance....the list goes on. Get responsible, then play all you want. Obamacare won't fix that. The same people that abuse the system won't sign up for healthcare because guess what.....they already get it. For free. Why put down the Xbox controller or pan over to healthcare.gov website (on their free wifi) to sign up for something they get continuously for free already? Dduuurrr. I'm gonna go out hit da club and inpregnate some more hoes. So the hoes will take their kids to the ER for a runny nose. But govt healthcare fixes the system.....gimme a break. What a load of horse s**t.
MxFreedom33
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I workout, I eat healthy, take vitamins, and go to the gym nearly everyday of the week. From an artical I read ( before I got mad at it and Xed the page ) its pretty much saying Obamacare is counting on those healthy FORCED to have health care and not use it to help pay for those unhealthy and ones that go to the ER/doctor/specialist on a regular basis. So, let me get this straight im living a healthy lifestlye, and PAYING just as much as Large Marge eating the triple Cheesy burger with a large fry and a diet coke while she has diabeetus ( Sorry Crute ) and whatever else health issues from being out of shape, lazy, and having a terrbile diet... Pays to be healthy, NOT!!!!
NQ1965
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I got my disgust button pushed a couple weeks ago.
A family member (to my wife), late thirties raising 4 kids, with no careers, no ambition, and no regular employment (either parent). Dependants on the food stamp, medical card and unemployment systems.
My wife gets phone call fom them asking if she can run one of the kids to a Dr's appointment, car has dead battery. I later find out the Dr's appointment is to the Orthodontist. Sounds good enough right?
Thought hits me and I ask: How are they able to afford to put braces on the kids? ( I put braces on 3 kids and wife and I'm thinking it cost me around $15,000. )
Her reply: It isn't costing them anything. Covered by the medical card. You are paying for it!
( please don't flame for this because I believe no child that needs orthodontics work should grow up without, but "COME ON!" )
A family member (to my wife), late thirties raising 4 kids, with no careers, no ambition, and no regular employment (either parent). Dependants on the food stamp, medical card and unemployment systems.
My wife gets phone call fom them asking if she can run one of the kids to a Dr's appointment, car has dead battery. I later find out the Dr's appointment is to the Orthodontist. Sounds good enough right?
Thought hits me and I ask: How are they able to afford to put braces on the kids? ( I put braces on 3 kids and wife and I'm thinking it cost me around $15,000. )
Her reply: It isn't costing them anything. Covered by the medical card. You are paying for it!
( please don't flame for this because I believe no child that needs orthodontics work should grow up without, but "COME ON!" )
adam63
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You know there are programs out there that pay to have their car fixed also and of course we pay for that to. One problem I see... I'm not sure who pays for the gas? Wait a minute, your wife did.
MxFreedom33
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Dont even get me started on those " type "
I again suffered Brill's blather. Another waste of time from Time.
GeorgiePorgie
PR Founding Father
The millenials can shut this Down. Don't sign up.
We are in luck though. Most of the millenials are realizing their meaningless college degrees won't automatically hand them a great job. And sitting in $100,000 in debt the govt just created some more life long entitled dependents!
They won't sign up for obamacare, they'll default on everything and wait for their Ohio 'direction' card. Directing them to remain dependent on government.
The other millenials won't sign up because they have their insurance through other means.
Aha says the young millenial.....but big brother rebutts: aha! so now everyone pays that penalty tax. As charlie would say:" Winning." So they'll have more revenue to spend on prostitutes and cocaine.
"Thanks ________!" (Fill in whose to blame)
hershey
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The point to ALL of this????
The Gov WANTS people to be dependent on the system, if you are then you vote for what they want to keep your handouts!
Obama is a socialist, if anyone cant see that then they are blind.
It has been pointed out for years, since the gov started the projects for low income people, that this is the gov agenda.
The Gov WANTS people to be dependent on the system, if you are then you vote for what they want to keep your handouts!
Obama is a socialist, if anyone cant see that then they are blind.
It has been pointed out for years, since the gov started the projects for low income people, that this is the gov agenda.
Why so clear and to the point Dave? Not buying into this tread's tedious, tortured premise? There are no vagaries here.
GeorgiePorgie
PR Founding Father
Whatever the penalty rate for not signing up for government healthcare silly. Did you not read my post? What is it $115 the first year, then creeps up to somewhere around $380 where it will stay. (and then be voted on for an increase when they need more prostitutes and cocaine, which will be more expensive due to inflation)