I am a believer in OMA. Just wish we had some tracks in the Southwest end of the state. I will look for land.....
I agree. There were WAY more then 40 razors... But really there was 44 85's. Simple answer to that is Staggered gage drop. Sr then Jr... IT IS PERFECT.That's a great list for a normal local. But like on Sunday, some of those classes combined had more than 40 bikes. Will have to look at the list.
Yes Mikey, my Grandparents use to own Happy Hollow but they sold it about 10 years ago. It was fun but the location sucked and it was hard to see the track from the pits. I want some rolling land with a few trees, a flat parking lot and a big pond... I don't ask for much...What ever happen to the land at Hidden Hills? (or something like that) Wasn't that someone you were related too or am I getting old and forgetting sh*t?
That place was FUN!!!
Yes Mikey, my Grandparents use to own Happy Hollow but they sold it about 10 years ago. It was fun but the location sucked and it was hard to see the track from the pits. I want some rolling land with a few trees, a flat parking lot and a big pond... I don't ask for much...
btw, thanks for the beer. I will stay the weekend at the cliff and we will drink until we cant feel feelings.
First Moto Second
A 10am 2:00
B 10:20 2:20
C 10:40 2:40
50 Jr and Sr. 11:00 3:00
Mini Jr. and Mini Sr. 11:20 3:20
25+ 11:40 3:40
40+ 12:00 4:00
Schoolboy and 16-24 12:20 4:20
65 12:40 4:40
30+ 1:00 5:00
Intermission 1:20 to 2
Everyone runs 15 min plus one lap.
If you want to run ANYTHING else. Couches, cars, razors, 65 extra, one ear donkey, Run it on Saturday.
I'm telling you, its perfect.
Water between moto's if you need it. End practice on time. Start moto's on time. Not before and not after.
Yes 412 riders at a local race is great. Lets go for more. Just think about it, we could have QUALIFERS at an Ohio race. Then, and ONLY then, would I change my schedule above...remember, its perfect.
I am a believer in OMA. Just wish we had some tracks in the Southwest end of the state. I will look for land.....
The problem with most of these scenarios is that they will not work in the current OMA race environment. I will pick on this suggestion as an example:
(Disclaimer: Don't be offended by me picking apart the above idea.. I mean no harm or disrespect.)
So here goes:
1. You need 2 sessions of B and C - I have riders every weekend that ride both, so they cannot be rode together
2. Where does the 50 Beginner go? If you put them with the Sr 50's you will have an ass chewing like you wouldn't believe.. I don't disagree with those Beginner parents, if we ran them with the 50 Sr, they would only get 1/2 the laps.
3.Riders can ride both Jr & Sr. Mini in our organization - look at the defined age levels.. This has happened several times
4. Speaking of money - Promoters will take a hit on their gate entries... Quads & spectators of quads would only pay one day of admission at a 2 day event.
5. Where in the running order is: Womens, Vet Sport, Super Mini, 2 stroke, Girls, and Trail Bike
6. What about the C rider that shares a bike with a B rider or a father/son team who shares one bike and rides Plus 25 and Plus 40
I could go on and on.. Reading this thread makes me crazy because I know how "easy" it seems to some of you to create the perfect running order, but what you don't realize is that EVERY RACE is different. There are different:
1. Riders; sharing different bikes and riding different classes with different ABILITIES.. (we do try to take this in account)
2. Weather Patterns; during the race and what is predicted for later
3. Track Preps; what might be good for Malvern dirt, might not work for Briarcliff dirt, one track may dry out quicker than the other.
Don't get me wrong, I can see a variety of pieces and parts of these ideas working, but you will not be able to make the same thing work every race. I know that some of you think "oh they can just stop wining, and suck it up" but, my job is to try to make the best running order for EVERYONE - not just the bikes, or pro riders, or 50 riders.. everyone pays a lot of $ on race day and I try to balance the running order and be objective. THERE IS ONLY ONE THING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE FOR EVERY RUNNING ORDER THAT ANY TRACK DOES, anyone know what that is?
..... Come on... think about it... wait for it...
wait for it....
The only thing that is 100% guaranteed with any running order is that, I WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY WITH THE RUNNING ORDER. lol
I appreciate everyone's suggestions though...
Connie
The problem with most of these scenarios is that they will not work in the current OMA race environment. I will pick on this suggestion as an example:
(Disclaimer: Don't be offended by me picking apart the above idea.. I mean no harm or disrespect.)
So here goes:
1. You need 2 sessions of B and C - I have riders every weekend that ride both, so they cannot be rode together
2. Where does the 50 Beginner go? If you put them with the Sr 50's you will have an ass chewing like you wouldn't believe.. I don't disagree with those Beginner parents, if we ran them with the 50 Sr, they would only get 1/2 the laps.
3.Riders can ride both Jr & Sr. Mini in our organization - look at the defined age levels.. This has happened several times
4. Speaking of money - Promoters will take a hit on their gate entries... Quads & spectators of quads would only pay one day of admission at a 2 day event.
5. Where in the running order is: Womens, Vet Sport, Super Mini, 2 stroke, Girls, and Trail Bike
6. What about the C rider that shares a bike with a B rider or a father/son team who shares one bike and rides Plus 25 and Plus 40
I could go on and on.. Reading this thread makes me crazy because I know how "easy" it seems to some of you to create the perfect running order, but what you don't realize is that EVERY RACE is different. There are different:
1. Riders; sharing different bikes and riding different classes with different ABILITIES.. (we do try to take this in account)
2. Weather Patterns; during the race and what is predicted for later
3. Track Preps; what might be good for Malvern dirt, might not work for Briarcliff dirt, one track may dry out quicker than the other.
Don't get me wrong, I can see a variety of pieces and parts of these ideas working, but you will not be able to make the same thing work every race. I know that some of you think "oh they can just stop wining, and suck it up" but, my job is to try to make the best running order for EVERYONE - not just the bikes, or pro riders, or 50 riders.. everyone pays a lot of $ on race day and I try to balance the running order and be objective. THERE IS ONLY ONE THING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY 100% TRUE FOR EVERY RUNNING ORDER THAT ANY TRACK DOES, anyone know what that is?
..... Come on... think about it... wait for it...
wait for it....
The only thing that is 100% guaranteed with any running order is that, I WILL NEVER MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY WITH THE RUNNING ORDER. lol
I appreciate everyone's suggestions though...
Connie
If it works so well then why doesnt the CRA or the Southwest Series do it?