Outdoor Nationals - Some times for perspective

mshafer62

mshafer62

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With High Point being in our backyard, some Ohio riders attempted to qualify for the big show.
These guys absolutely rip at our local tracks, so here are some times to put things into perspective:

450 class
Fast qualifier was Justin Cooper with a 2:01 (fractional seconds omitted)
Jeremy Hand was 17th with a 2:09
Cade Clason, 30th at 2:11
Brett Heidorn 46th at 2:17
Jack Winland 55th at 2:22
Gavin Mays 62nd at 2:23

250 Class
Fast Qualifier was Haiden Deegan with a 2:02
Hayden Hoover was 60th at 2:15
Tony Usko 64th at 2:18
Kyle Czworkowski 79th at 2:37

Props to your efforts, keep digging and don't give up!
 
Both classes are insanely deep don’t matter which one. Most them boys are all my buddies and all rip locally. Just like you said puts in perspective. Craziest thing is there hardest and fastest laps going aa fast as they can are all 15-20 seconds off. Like when you start to break it down how the hell do those dudes do it and go that damn fast in comparison. Those tenths of seconds start to add up that’s for sure. I mean especially on high point where there isn’t any crazy jumps or anything
 
The boys (Heirdorn, Hoover, Mays and Jack) were all pitted together. Ohio clan! They are all still learning qualifying sprint speed, no mistakes, how to navigate traffic and yellow flags to get that perfect lap. For the most part qualifying 1 is going to be your fastest time, although Bret made his best in 2. They are all capable of making it in and will. A lot of it is mental preparedness. For Jack he struggles in the AM with balance, once he gets a session in he’s good, But then it’s too late. We started experimenting with a balance board before Q1 and it did help. He actually qualified P10 with a 2:18.8 in Q1. We still haven’t figured out why the scoring got skewed somewhere in the mix. Doesn’t really matter it wasn’t good enough, just a few gate pics. Bret and Jack got caught up in a start crash in the LCQ, Gavin was looking good until he lost his arms. Yes, the field is deep and fast in both. Time can easily be made up by these boys, they just have to ride a little more uncomfortable. Example: Jack was god awful slow down the staircase, easy 2-4 seconds. Big downhill in the back 1-2 seconds. Pretty good every where else but pick up tenths in the other spots. Highpoint does appear to be an easy track without big separation obstacles but it’s the track condition in the qualifiers that separates the best. All the boys would have loved to ride the motos and were frothing at the mouth of how good the track was after cleaning it up. Best part of the weekend is that it somehow didn’t rain for our rides! Matt.
 
Actually best part was being parked by sound testing! Deegs failed twice. Entire Kawi team changed pipes watched a Yami fail with a stock pipe. The boys didn’t have a mandatory check but got tested for curiosity. They all passed. We failed a few times last year so this was nice!
 
Those top riders are just always on the gas. And it's not 1/2 or 3/4 throttle. They come out of the corners and the twist it hard all the time. That's where those seconds come off.
 
nitrofish said:
Actually best part was being parked by sound testing! Deegs failed twice. Entire Kawi team changed pipes watched a Yami fail with a stock pipe. The boys didn’t have a mandatory check but got tested for curiosity. They all passed. We failed a few times last year so this was nice!
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Ive always heard everyone failing on stock Yamahas. Honestly don’t get the sound testing for outdoors no point really. I think they should let them be as loud as they want outdoors.
 
Pre event and random as you’re coming off the track for timed qualifying is all I’ve ever seen. Failed twice last year, once pre, one coming off the track. Lost fastest lap time. They had a bucket of FMF inserts at the end of the track. Gave us one and told us to comeback. Yamis are are targeted especially with FMF exhaust.
 
Some Southwick data:

250's
Haiden Deegan was fast qualifier with a 2:04
Hayden Hoover 64th with a 2:23
Steven Keil 75th 2:33
Kyle Czworkowski 78th 2:41
40th qualifier was 2:15

No locals in the 450's

Fingers crossed in 2025, we see someone local make a National.
Keep grinding!
 
The Ohio boys are going to make it this year. Don’t know what round but they’ll get there way into the show. Red bud will be sick this weekend excited to go and race Sunday
 
mshafer62 said:
Some Southwick data:

250's
Haiden Deegan was fast qualifier with a 2:04
Hayden Hoover 64th with a 2:23
Steven Keil 75th 2:33
Kyle Czworkowski 78th 2:41
40th qualifier was 2:15

No locals in the 450's

Fingers crossed in 2025, we see someone local make a National.
Keep grinding!
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It's amazing how close they are in laptimes.
Two & a half minutes of brutal wrestling with split-second decisions throughout and it boils down to a lousy few seconds between em.
.....it takes me 10 seconds to pull of tearoff.
 
Another thing to think about is usually southwick has 250s go first and they went second so ideally if the Ohio boys did go to southwick in the 450 class they at least would of had the best track all day. However red buds schedule has 450s going first on the website so might be another good chance for them to get the smoothest track and hopefully put some crazy fast lap times down. The leap is definitely crucial in making the show props to anyone who jumps it I’m out lol
 
Mcaupp22 said:
Another thing to think about is usually southwick has 250s go first and they went second so ideally if the Ohio boys did go to southwick in the 450 class they at least would of had the best track all day. However red buds schedule has 450s going first on the website so might be another good chance for them to get the smoothest track and hopefully put some crazy fast lap times down. The leap is definitely crucial in making the show props to anyone who jumps it I’m out lol
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Nah. Don't have to jump the leap to make the show. Plenty of guys don't jump it.
 
Details from Red Bud...

250's
Ryder DiFrancesco fastest at 2:08
Hayden Hoover 62nd at 2:27
Kyle Czworkowski 80th at 3:15

450's
Jett Lawrence fastest at 2:04
Jeremy Hand 25th at 2:11
Brett Heidorn 54th at 2:17
Steve Mages 60th at 2:19
Jack Winland 64th at 2:20
Trevor Paine 66th at 2:24

Their efforts, regardless of results, are applauded!
 
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